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Sean Faust
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2008.03.31 15:36:00 -
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The Vengeance has the strongest tank out of any frigate sized ship in the game, period. But that doesn't necessarily mean it has the most SURVIVABILITY, because as a previous poster pointed out, avoiding damage can lead to more survivability than outright tank.
It's important to understand that regardless of what ship you fly, no matter how you fit it, there will always be another ship out there that can smack you around as easy as a cat with a toy mouse. That's the paper-rock-scissors "balance" thing happening.
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Sean Faust
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sean Faust on 31/03/2008 17:23:16
 Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Derek Sigres
I'm actually curious.
On Paper the Vengeance seems like it COULD be good at small scale piracy. It's got a supurb slot layout for the job, and so long as you don't think that MWD is an absoulute must have, no arguments to the contrary are accepted it can tank, tackle and gank very well for a frigate hull. It's bonuses seem tailor made for small scale low sec piracy in Caldari Space, and I'd be willing to bet a vengeance could annihilate my old Level II caracal without breaking a sweat.
So, while it seems good on paper, how does the real life performance of the Vengeance stack up in the grand scheme of things?
Erm, I guess. Lasers have always been good against shields - nothing new there.
-Liang
Vengeance is a missile spammer =P Rockets in particular
Vengeance is black, black means khanid, and khanid means short range missiles and insane armor tanks that are impossible for other ships of the same class to break. In other words, in Amarr speak, Black = Death. A properly fitted vengeance with an AB and a SAR II can permarun both.
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Sean Faust
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:30:00 -
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IMHO I think the vengeance is the only AF that is successful in emulating its HAC big brother. The harpy is trying to be a frigate sized eagle, the hawk is trying to be a frig sized cerb, and the Vengeance is trying to be a frigate sized Sacrilege.
It succeeds.
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Sean Faust
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:43:00 -
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AFs are decent, the problem is that they offer nothing at all to a gang. But for solo work, they're great for small scale lowsec belt piracy and a skilled AF pilot can easily kill anyone in another frig based ship or a t1 cruiser.
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Sean Faust
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Sean Faust
AFs are decent, the problem is that they offer nothing at all to a gang. But for solo work, they're great for small scale lowsec belt piracy and a skilled AF pilot can easily kill anyone in another frig based ship or a t1 cruiser.
I'd be really surprised to die to an AF in my Thorax, Vexor, Rupture, or Stabber. The T1 Amarr cruisers don't count. 
Also, I'd be surprised to die to an AF in my Blackbird. 
-Liang
EWAR ships don't count =P. Also, piracy implies taking on a helpless PvE fitted ship. A good AF can own a PvE fitted cruiser =P
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